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I got a little bit excited about Mickey's idea that racism (and by extension sexism, ageism, etc.?) is kind of always going to be a problem and we need to self check to be aware of it was spot on, and resonant with both Buddhism and Virtue Ethics. Bob, also cognitive empathy? Love to hear you two get into this a little more philosophically. It might be interesting to hypothesize a topic where you could potentially find meaningful common ground.

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