May 27 • 45M

DeSantis's and Ukraine's Incursions (Robert Wright & Mickey Kaus)

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Robert Wright
Conversations with a series of people who have nothing in common except that program host Robert Wright is curious about what they’re thinking.
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0:00 Bob quizzes Mickey on worrisome Ukraine war developments
8:26 What could push Putin to go nuclear?
16:34 How disastrous was the DeSantis launch really?
27:46 DeSantis’s possible anti-Trump trump card
37:03 Who’s losing the debt-ceiling fight?
40:15 Parrot room preview: Soul and dual Dune reviews; the latest on Epstein-Gates; Bob’s 12 Monkeys howler; AI; simply the best of Tina Turner; Mickey delineates new immigration bills

Robert Wright (, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Mickey Kaus (kausfiles, The End of Equality). Recorded May 26, 2023.

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