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AI and the China Question (Robert Wright & Nathan Labenz)
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AI and the China Question (Robert Wright & Nathan Labenz)

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0:00 Anthropic’s CEO comes out as a China hawk
6:14 Why so many China hawks in the AI community?
22:25 Gaming out the AGI takeoff timeline
30:07 Last year’s OpenAI coup: What did Ilya see?
36:19 Underappreciated dangers of the China chip war
53:17 Are US tech leaders seeing China’s perspective clearly?
1:05:08 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nathan Labenz (Cognitive Revolution, Waymark AI). Recorded November 26, 2024.

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Overtime titles:

0:00 What would an AI deal with China look like?
14:49 How to mend the US-China relationship
25:01 Nathan’s tour of duty in the AGI war (games)
39:23 Multiple paths to the singularity

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