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China Viewed from China (Robert Wright & Peter Hessler)
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China Viewed from China (Robert Wright & Peter Hessler)

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0:00 Peter’s new book, Other Rivers: A Chinese Education
3:00 Have Chinese people become less hostile to America?
12:48 What Americans get wrong about China
17:14 Why Peter thinks Covid didn’t come from a lab
20:35 China’s transformative recent decades
30:46 Respect for authority in Chinese culture
40:02 Change in China between Peter’s two teaching stints there
54:17 Why the Chinese political system may change dramatically

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Peter Hessler (River Town, Other Rivers). Recorded September 17, 2024.

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Overtime titles:

0:00 Growing anti-China sentiment in America
10:04 When was peak China?
16:08 Peter’s experiences in Egypt after the Arab Spring
26:37 China’s uncertain political future

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