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Elon and Altman: Dueling Messiahs (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

Elon and Altman: Dueling Messiahs (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)


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0:00 Paul’s Substack: small potatoes or some pumpkins?
3:25 Elon sours on Lemon—is ketamine to blame?
9:32 The enduring enigma that is Elon Musk
20:57 Is Altman overdramatizing the AI #Resistance?
29:35 Paul cavalierly ignores Bob’s sage guidance
33:57 Oscars: The good, the bad, and the hammy
40:29 Heading to Overtime (plus: big Small Potatoes news!)

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded March 19, 2024.


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Overtime titles:

0:00 The knotty SSRI sexual side effect question
3:22 How woke is Barbie?
16:36 How Will Smith’s Oscar slap is like Russia-Ukraine
20:41 Is AI Bob’s ticket to immortality?
25:41 Jury Duty, acting, and human nature
35:07 What is the TikTok ban really about?
47:42 Is Paul Pollyanna?

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